No apology needed, Cherae. Your honesty is more than welcome here.
We all hit that wall sometimes...especially when it feels like we’re watching the same nightmare on repeat. The fact that you care this much is a sign of your strength...not a flaw. Vent away when you need to… this space is built for exactly that. You're not alone... and you’re always welcome to speak your truth...snark and all. Believe me...I am fluent in snark ;)
A pardon for Ghislaine would send a hedious message. She was the groomer of these young girls and recruited them for Epstein. Without them there would have been no Epstein international sex trafficking ring. They were partners in crime. She must do the time.
Absolutely agree, Leslie...and thank you for putting it so clearly.
A pardon for Ghislaine would not only be a grotesque betrayal of the survivors...it would send a dangerous signal to the powerful: that grooming and trafficking can be excused if you have the right connections. You're right...she wasn't a bystander. She was central to the operation. Justice demands accountability, and anything less would be a stain on our collective conscience.
Great question...and you’re not the only one wondering, Sheru.
“Dead man’s switch” insurance is a real tactic in the worlds of intelligence...organized crime...and high-risk political scandals. We don’t know if Maxwell set one up...but if she did...it would help explain why so many powerful people tread carefully around her name.
Either way, the possibility matters. It’s one more reason evidence preservation...sworn testimony...and real transparency are non-negotiable. Survivors deserve the full record...not whatever’s convenient for the connected.
Eyes up. We keep pushing until the truth isn’t leverage anymore.
I don't think there is a way to guarantee Maxwell"s safety. I think this whole group of pedophiles and their co horts are too many to be able to protect her. There are probably some that don't want anything out about them and could care less what happens to drumpf. I would not want to be let loose unless I had a way to leave the country anonymously and taken somewhere I could hide. Not sure that would even be possible
Maxwell can refuse the pardon, which I hope she would do. One would think she wants to tell her story, I know I would. She owes her victims at least that much.
That’s such a thoughtful point. And I couldn’t agree more, Jim.
A pardon doesn’t have to be accepted...and if Maxwell has even a shred of remorse left... refusing it would be the bare minimum gesture toward justice. You're right. She owes her victims truth...not silence. If she truly wanted to reclaim any humanity...telling her full story would be a start. Thank you for bringing that up...it’s an angle we don’t talk about enough.
You are absolutely correct about shutting down Maxwell. He'll try the strong arm tactic first and go from there. Bondi and Patel are to go see her today to see if she has anything "pertinent " to the investigation. I know many say there's nothing there there, but I disagree. Why would he have bondi task 1000 agents to comb the files and tag the documents in a second document, excel, if trump's name is mentioned? They didn't care about victim's names and ID, just his. If he's this paranoid, there is something. You don't hang around with someone for close to 20 years without knowing something is horribly wrong. You don't hold a private party of young girls for 1. Now he forced Johnson to shut down the house to keep a vote from being held on the epstein file. Yes....there is a there there. Whew, this regime is exhausting 😴
I've read that Bondi's team will be speaking to Maxwell prior to her testimony. Probably to deliver a msg like "give me (drumpf) liberty or we give you death" . This pre-meeting should not be allowed as the Bondi team will be trying hard to intimidate her - like witness tampering.
I commented on one of your BlueSky posts that a pardon for her could go either way. My gut tells me that it would not help him if he did that. The uproar from the Epstein case is growing amongst the loyalists and I think that it would get worse for him in particular, because it's already looking like he's trying to protect himself with all of the deflection and throwing shit at the wall hoping that it sticks. He's definitely not trying to protect anyone else. He would throw his own kids under the bus to save his own skin.
Thank you Jack! The only positive notion I can take away here is the fact that the lowlife-in-chief is having to scramble and fend off more of his own bullshit coming back at him. I hope it drives him over the edge of the very obviously approaching CLIFF. I have also wondered why Ghislaine is still alive...
If I were Maxwell, and I had very damaging details about powerful people I would be very worried about my safety. Cameras can be strategically turned off for 2-3 minutes and guards can look away for a brief moment. Next we're told of another "suicide "
Thanks for re-enabling the comments, (I thought it was something I said). I had a few choice ones for a piece from a few days ago, but they slipped away. I’ll be more diligent, you always deserve the good feedback we usually see. Thanks again.
I think the messaging against a pardon for her needs to call her out fully. She's not just a co-conspirator...she's a rapist. I think because she's a woman, this gets softened or overlooked. But victim testimony said she raped the girls with Epstein. She recruited, groomed, trafficked, raped and facilitated the rape of girls. She was an integral part of laying the trap and participating in abuse. How could anyone be ok with pardoning that?
I guess they can’t do the fake suicide like they did with Epstein without drawing suspicion—although I feel like maybe they could get away with that, too. Grrrrrrrr
She has been paid a visit from the FBI. What she says or does not say at this point is secondary to what the files and other witnesses actually know and say. She wants out. Her family wants her out. A pardon would confirm his connection with her and raise more questions.
So, if pardoned, would it be a silver lining that she could be subpoenaed, by Congress (currently in the conversation), & not be able to plead the 5th & be compelled to be truthful? Unless, of course, she flees the country in fear for her life.
I was thinking the same thing, but then if he also shuts down the investigation, there wouldn't be anything to testify about. That's where my mind went.
It is already bad enough that this sexual assault goes on, on special islands, corporate compounds, hotels, children’s homes. Truly disgusting. DISGUSTING. I have little confidence that the hideous acts will stop. Children, boys, girls, young women and men are absolutely not believed. This is a good time to scream as loud as we can that none of us will stand for a pardon of Maxwell and covering up the trafficking,i.e., sexual abuse of young people. This is something that is a truth. Maybe some don’t believe it exists and they are shocked. Please open your eyes. This is a secret travesty. Think about who is displayed in pornography that some view. That is real. Someone is being physically damaged by an adult, or other set ups I will not go into. Time to unlock Pandoras Box, so to speak. If Trump has been involved in pedophelia, or any other politician, mogul, media star, movie star, associate, etc., they must be charged and tried. This is important on so many levels. Think about the knowledge that we vote for people so morally repugnant. Who are we?
This asshole is absolutely wearin’ me out. I’m feeling a wee bit snarky, stabby, downright nasty today. I apologize. I have nothing helpful to share.
Maybe I should shut up before I say something seriously rude.
No apology needed, Cherae. Your honesty is more than welcome here.
We all hit that wall sometimes...especially when it feels like we’re watching the same nightmare on repeat. The fact that you care this much is a sign of your strength...not a flaw. Vent away when you need to… this space is built for exactly that. You're not alone... and you’re always welcome to speak your truth...snark and all. Believe me...I am fluent in snark ;)
-Jack
A pardon for Ghislaine would send a hedious message. She was the groomer of these young girls and recruited them for Epstein. Without them there would have been no Epstein international sex trafficking ring. They were partners in crime. She must do the time.
Absolutely agree, Leslie...and thank you for putting it so clearly.
A pardon for Ghislaine would not only be a grotesque betrayal of the survivors...it would send a dangerous signal to the powerful: that grooming and trafficking can be excused if you have the right connections. You're right...she wasn't a bystander. She was central to the operation. Justice demands accountability, and anything less would be a stain on our collective conscience.
Appreciate you being here and speaking up!
-Jack
I find myself wondering if she's guaranteed her own safety by arranging for the release of information if anything happens to her? Like "suicide"?
Great question...and you’re not the only one wondering, Sheru.
“Dead man’s switch” insurance is a real tactic in the worlds of intelligence...organized crime...and high-risk political scandals. We don’t know if Maxwell set one up...but if she did...it would help explain why so many powerful people tread carefully around her name.
Either way, the possibility matters. It’s one more reason evidence preservation...sworn testimony...and real transparency are non-negotiable. Survivors deserve the full record...not whatever’s convenient for the connected.
Eyes up. We keep pushing until the truth isn’t leverage anymore.
-Jack
I don't think there is a way to guarantee Maxwell"s safety. I think this whole group of pedophiles and their co horts are too many to be able to protect her. There are probably some that don't want anything out about them and could care less what happens to drumpf. I would not want to be let loose unless I had a way to leave the country anonymously and taken somewhere I could hide. Not sure that would even be possible
Maxwell can refuse the pardon, which I hope she would do. One would think she wants to tell her story, I know I would. She owes her victims at least that much.
That’s such a thoughtful point. And I couldn’t agree more, Jim.
A pardon doesn’t have to be accepted...and if Maxwell has even a shred of remorse left... refusing it would be the bare minimum gesture toward justice. You're right. She owes her victims truth...not silence. If she truly wanted to reclaim any humanity...telling her full story would be a start. Thank you for bringing that up...it’s an angle we don’t talk about enough.
-Jack
You are absolutely correct about shutting down Maxwell. He'll try the strong arm tactic first and go from there. Bondi and Patel are to go see her today to see if she has anything "pertinent " to the investigation. I know many say there's nothing there there, but I disagree. Why would he have bondi task 1000 agents to comb the files and tag the documents in a second document, excel, if trump's name is mentioned? They didn't care about victim's names and ID, just his. If he's this paranoid, there is something. You don't hang around with someone for close to 20 years without knowing something is horribly wrong. You don't hold a private party of young girls for 1. Now he forced Johnson to shut down the house to keep a vote from being held on the epstein file. Yes....there is a there there. Whew, this regime is exhausting 😴
I've read that Bondi's team will be speaking to Maxwell prior to her testimony. Probably to deliver a msg like "give me (drumpf) liberty or we give you death" . This pre-meeting should not be allowed as the Bondi team will be trying hard to intimidate her - like witness tampering.
I commented on one of your BlueSky posts that a pardon for her could go either way. My gut tells me that it would not help him if he did that. The uproar from the Epstein case is growing amongst the loyalists and I think that it would get worse for him in particular, because it's already looking like he's trying to protect himself with all of the deflection and throwing shit at the wall hoping that it sticks. He's definitely not trying to protect anyone else. He would throw his own kids under the bus to save his own skin.
Thank you Jack! The only positive notion I can take away here is the fact that the lowlife-in-chief is having to scramble and fend off more of his own bullshit coming back at him. I hope it drives him over the edge of the very obviously approaching CLIFF. I have also wondered why Ghislaine is still alive...
If I were Maxwell, and I had very damaging details about powerful people I would be very worried about my safety. Cameras can be strategically turned off for 2-3 minutes and guards can look away for a brief moment. Next we're told of another "suicide "
Thanks for re-enabling the comments, (I thought it was something I said). I had a few choice ones for a piece from a few days ago, but they slipped away. I’ll be more diligent, you always deserve the good feedback we usually see. Thanks again.
I think the messaging against a pardon for her needs to call her out fully. She's not just a co-conspirator...she's a rapist. I think because she's a woman, this gets softened or overlooked. But victim testimony said she raped the girls with Epstein. She recruited, groomed, trafficked, raped and facilitated the rape of girls. She was an integral part of laying the trap and participating in abuse. How could anyone be ok with pardoning that?
Well, now we have an overshoe in the chowder. Will Todd Blanche "talk with her" or kill her?
Interesting question. Also would he have the ability of off her or would he chicken out
How about this: Pardon her, turn her loose and then . . . . . "Oops, didn't see the semi coming at me."
I guess they can’t do the fake suicide like they did with Epstein without drawing suspicion—although I feel like maybe they could get away with that, too. Grrrrrrrr
She has been paid a visit from the FBI. What she says or does not say at this point is secondary to what the files and other witnesses actually know and say. She wants out. Her family wants her out. A pardon would confirm his connection with her and raise more questions.
So, if pardoned, would it be a silver lining that she could be subpoenaed, by Congress (currently in the conversation), & not be able to plead the 5th & be compelled to be truthful? Unless, of course, she flees the country in fear for her life.
I was thinking the same thing, but then if he also shuts down the investigation, there wouldn't be anything to testify about. That's where my mind went.
Seems the pardon is his next predictable step because they can't suicide her in prison. It wouldn't fly as well this time.
It is already bad enough that this sexual assault goes on, on special islands, corporate compounds, hotels, children’s homes. Truly disgusting. DISGUSTING. I have little confidence that the hideous acts will stop. Children, boys, girls, young women and men are absolutely not believed. This is a good time to scream as loud as we can that none of us will stand for a pardon of Maxwell and covering up the trafficking,i.e., sexual abuse of young people. This is something that is a truth. Maybe some don’t believe it exists and they are shocked. Please open your eyes. This is a secret travesty. Think about who is displayed in pornography that some view. That is real. Someone is being physically damaged by an adult, or other set ups I will not go into. Time to unlock Pandoras Box, so to speak. If Trump has been involved in pedophelia, or any other politician, mogul, media star, movie star, associate, etc., they must be charged and tried. This is important on so many levels. Think about the knowledge that we vote for people so morally repugnant. Who are we?