Your right, Jack, messaging has been a problem for the Democratic party for the last few elections. I'm in total agreement with you here. We need to get together on Bullet Point messages,in language folks can relate to, and hammer it home. No more " Republicans did this" and argue Their point. To me it's a waste of time and to be honest, boring 😴. Good message tonight,as always, Thank you and will reStack ASAP 💯👍
That’s EXACTLY the point. Democrats spend way too much time reacting to REPUBLICAN framing...instead of putting simple...repeatable...kitchen-table messages in front of people and staying with them.
And...you’re right...it gets boring watching Democrats argue inside the OTHER side’s frame. At some point...you have to stop EXPLAINING the opposition’s argument FOR them ...and start hammering home your OWN.
What messages would you look for? I think democrats have differing requirements , and we all look for something different . I know they can talk about the economy, price of gas, women’s freedoms but we don’t even all agree on that.
One reason Clyburn's comments land differently...is that they've been earned over decades of watching political trends come and go.
He's seen parties win...lose...reinvent themselves...and...make the same mistakes more than once.
Whether people agree with his conclusions...or not...it's difficult to dismiss the perspective of someone who has spent that much time observing what voters actually do... versus what political insiders THINK they'll do.
Sometimes...experience doesn't make someone right...but...it does make their warnings worth paying attention to.
Agree. But I think he’s pretty much right, if not all the much. This ain’t his first rodeo. That might not make everyone wise, but this one soaked up and shares the wisdom.
I like him. Can you tell?
I’m going to look up your reference material, as I find this subject to be of interest AND importance. We tend to forget that we may be neighbors, but we each arrive at the table with our own perspectives. Very interesting.
Searching through the Democrat’s platforms over the years, I was surprised to find the changes they have made but if they can’t figure out a kitchen table platform for any and all elections, they deserve to find themselves with a third party rising. Listening is good but if they can’t hear the primal scream coming from their constituents, they’re really deaf.
Yes. Think bumper stickers, not policy papers. Here’s what’s wrong and here’s how we will fix it. Real world language addressing problems people live with every day. The two things I see/hear people squawking about the most are 1) cost of living - housing, food, gas, etc. and 2) corruption/lies that has a handful of people making bank while an average person sees layoffs, small businesses going broke, and their income either barely or no longer making ends meet.
I just saw this. https://youtu.be/czbhRAfxhj8 Jon Osoff shows Dems how to do that. Brilliant. The intro stuff is pretty standard political noise, but then he names the game in terms that everyday people can relate to.
Yes it is a wonderful speech although I would characterize it as more of a conversation. He brought his audience along with him into the narrative. He named it all one by one. He had their attention - for a long time. Master class in speaking all their concerns and explaining his concern and depth of knowledge. No lecture, no shouting. Just a conversation in a very large living room.
That was a great interview with James Clyburn. I truly hope every Democrat is brought up to speed with the new reality that they’re in an echo chamber of backslapping each other! Thanks for this Jack.
We are so used to talking past people, asking irrelevant questions, and not pausing to actually listen. Today's successful candidates are actually doing that ground level work. They are knocking doors. Getting out in public spaces. listening and communicating with constituents. Clyburn is correct, listening intentionally, following through with conversations, and being accessible are required. We do have a communication problem. Biden, through all his faults, did a marvelous job of mitigation during and after covid. He had great plans that were quite effective, but little press or attention was given. Now trump is slapping his brand on those infrastructure jobs and improvements that were created under Biden.
BUT....
red hats having listening and the responding issues too. I contact them and ask specifically about certain legislation or questions. Their pat response: I'm not serving on that position, but if asked I'll keep in mind your concerns.
Reality is a tough pill to swallow. Reaction is loud. Listening is quiet. A learned response to a challenging environment. If one isn’t listening how is it possible to communicate? Thank you Jack. Steady as we go.
Jack, you’ve got it! The Democratic Party has been recently too invested in listening to strategists and not to the people whose votes they need! James Clyburn is a wise man, the DNC would be well advised to start listening to him, and seeking even more counsel from him…he has his finger on the pulse of “the people!” This is an election we cannot afford to let slip out of our hands once again. We cannot point fingers, place blame, rather we need work together in making this country whole again, addressing the “kitchen table” issues that are impacting everyone now! That is our road to winning in November…and we must take a majority in both the House and the Senate! This is the subject we need to keep returning to, it has to become party of the core of the Democratic Party…for the people, as Kamala said! On Tuesday evening I will anxiously be awaiting the results of the California primary…as a California native I don’t want to see my state slip away from the progressive leadership it has had for the past almost 16 years…fingers crossed!
The best communication is to be who you are, say what you believe, and then LISTEN respectfully to other views, or in whichever order the conversation takes you. Sometimes you find you are learning something new and have a mutual understanding, not necessarily agreement. Your article reminds us to accept people as they are and attempt to find common ground. Democratic analysts are over analyzing everything to the point that candidates are afraid to say or do anything that isn't acceptable to the invisible analysts.
And maybe there's many like me that got comfortable, complacent... Thinking the elected would know what we the people in the ranks needed... There were not enough voices loud enough to be heard. And concessions made to get only part of the requests... No more!
Yep, that’s what the Democrats in power do- they drone on and on about whatever, and lose my attention even though I agree with them most of the time. I am so frustrated with their lack of clarity and simpering attitudes. What people want is simple, clear, powerful answers to their problems, NOW. Take the gloves off and come out fighting, not muttering.
The good old boys in the democratic party need to retire because they all think they know what the people want and are concerned about. WRONG! There are some great young demorcrates that I have listened to who do understand what is at stake and what the people need. Let their voices be heard and let them take the reigns now.
The Democratic Party is not the progressive party it once was. It looks to me like Republican Party of the 80’s lite. The progressive wing of the party is always shut down as “too radical “ All the things ordinary people want is too radical. It’s always framed as “socialism.” So instead of fighting for Healthcare for all, infrastructure that works, and education reforms and don’t forget if we realky want to make America Great we must go back to a working tax system like the 1950’s when we built this country. Probably the biggest change needed is repeal Citizens United. Otherwise there is no difference between the party’s.
Your right, Jack, messaging has been a problem for the Democratic party for the last few elections. I'm in total agreement with you here. We need to get together on Bullet Point messages,in language folks can relate to, and hammer it home. No more " Republicans did this" and argue Their point. To me it's a waste of time and to be honest, boring 😴. Good message tonight,as always, Thank you and will reStack ASAP 💯👍
Karen...you nailed it.
That’s EXACTLY the point. Democrats spend way too much time reacting to REPUBLICAN framing...instead of putting simple...repeatable...kitchen-table messages in front of people and staying with them.
Bullet points. Plain language. Repetition. Relatability. That’s how messages break through.
And...you’re right...it gets boring watching Democrats argue inside the OTHER side’s frame. At some point...you have to stop EXPLAINING the opposition’s argument FOR them ...and start hammering home your OWN.
Thank you for the restack. I appreciate you!
-Jack
What messages would you look for? I think democrats have differing requirements , and we all look for something different . I know they can talk about the economy, price of gas, women’s freedoms but we don’t even all agree on that.
I think this is more powerful coming from a person of his age rather than a younger whippersnapper.
Ytram...I think there's a lot of truth to that.
One reason Clyburn's comments land differently...is that they've been earned over decades of watching political trends come and go.
He's seen parties win...lose...reinvent themselves...and...make the same mistakes more than once.
Whether people agree with his conclusions...or not...it's difficult to dismiss the perspective of someone who has spent that much time observing what voters actually do... versus what political insiders THINK they'll do.
Sometimes...experience doesn't make someone right...but...it does make their warnings worth paying attention to.
-Jack
Agree. But I think he’s pretty much right, if not all the much. This ain’t his first rodeo. That might not make everyone wise, but this one soaked up and shares the wisdom.
I like him. Can you tell?
I’m going to look up your reference material, as I find this subject to be of interest AND importance. We tend to forget that we may be neighbors, but we each arrive at the table with our own perspectives. Very interesting.
OH!! And I have a PASSPORT!! 😉
Thanks for the nudge.
Once again, you state it better than I. Yes, OBSERVATION.
Searching through the Democrat’s platforms over the years, I was surprised to find the changes they have made but if they can’t figure out a kitchen table platform for any and all elections, they deserve to find themselves with a third party rising. Listening is good but if they can’t hear the primal scream coming from their constituents, they’re really deaf.
Agree
Yes. Think bumper stickers, not policy papers. Here’s what’s wrong and here’s how we will fix it. Real world language addressing problems people live with every day. The two things I see/hear people squawking about the most are 1) cost of living - housing, food, gas, etc. and 2) corruption/lies that has a handful of people making bank while an average person sees layoffs, small businesses going broke, and their income either barely or no longer making ends meet.
Those are exactly what we have got to concentrate on…”kitchen table issues” and righting the corruption that is endemic in this regime!
I just saw this. https://youtu.be/czbhRAfxhj8 Jon Osoff shows Dems how to do that. Brilliant. The intro stuff is pretty standard political noise, but then he names the game in terms that everyday people can relate to.
Yes it is a wonderful speech although I would characterize it as more of a conversation. He brought his audience along with him into the narrative. He named it all one by one. He had their attention - for a long time. Master class in speaking all their concerns and explaining his concern and depth of knowledge. No lecture, no shouting. Just a conversation in a very large living room.
Yes. Agree 100%
LOVE Ossoff…potential 2028 Presidential candidate? I hope so!!
In addition to the electeds needing to look like the voters, they need to have the same concerns and help with the People’s issues. Who’d of thunk….?
That was a great interview with James Clyburn. I truly hope every Democrat is brought up to speed with the new reality that they’re in an echo chamber of backslapping each other! Thanks for this Jack.
We are so used to talking past people, asking irrelevant questions, and not pausing to actually listen. Today's successful candidates are actually doing that ground level work. They are knocking doors. Getting out in public spaces. listening and communicating with constituents. Clyburn is correct, listening intentionally, following through with conversations, and being accessible are required. We do have a communication problem. Biden, through all his faults, did a marvelous job of mitigation during and after covid. He had great plans that were quite effective, but little press or attention was given. Now trump is slapping his brand on those infrastructure jobs and improvements that were created under Biden.
BUT....
red hats having listening and the responding issues too. I contact them and ask specifically about certain legislation or questions. Their pat response: I'm not serving on that position, but if asked I'll keep in mind your concerns.
Reality is a tough pill to swallow. Reaction is loud. Listening is quiet. A learned response to a challenging environment. If one isn’t listening how is it possible to communicate? Thank you Jack. Steady as we go.
Jack, you’ve got it! The Democratic Party has been recently too invested in listening to strategists and not to the people whose votes they need! James Clyburn is a wise man, the DNC would be well advised to start listening to him, and seeking even more counsel from him…he has his finger on the pulse of “the people!” This is an election we cannot afford to let slip out of our hands once again. We cannot point fingers, place blame, rather we need work together in making this country whole again, addressing the “kitchen table” issues that are impacting everyone now! That is our road to winning in November…and we must take a majority in both the House and the Senate! This is the subject we need to keep returning to, it has to become party of the core of the Democratic Party…for the people, as Kamala said! On Tuesday evening I will anxiously be awaiting the results of the California primary…as a California native I don’t want to see my state slip away from the progressive leadership it has had for the past almost 16 years…fingers crossed!
The best communication is to be who you are, say what you believe, and then LISTEN respectfully to other views, or in whichever order the conversation takes you. Sometimes you find you are learning something new and have a mutual understanding, not necessarily agreement. Your article reminds us to accept people as they are and attempt to find common ground. Democratic analysts are over analyzing everything to the point that candidates are afraid to say or do anything that isn't acceptable to the invisible analysts.
Absolute truth .. again
And maybe there's many like me that got comfortable, complacent... Thinking the elected would know what we the people in the ranks needed... There were not enough voices loud enough to be heard. And concessions made to get only part of the requests... No more!
Ab
This: https://youtu.be/czbhRAfxhj8 Jon Osoff conducts a master class on how Dems should tell it.
Yep, that’s what the Democrats in power do- they drone on and on about whatever, and lose my attention even though I agree with them most of the time. I am so frustrated with their lack of clarity and simpering attitudes. What people want is simple, clear, powerful answers to their problems, NOW. Take the gloves off and come out fighting, not muttering.
The good old boys in the democratic party need to retire because they all think they know what the people want and are concerned about. WRONG! There are some great young demorcrates that I have listened to who do understand what is at stake and what the people need. Let their voices be heard and let them take the reigns now.
The Democratic Party is not the progressive party it once was. It looks to me like Republican Party of the 80’s lite. The progressive wing of the party is always shut down as “too radical “ All the things ordinary people want is too radical. It’s always framed as “socialism.” So instead of fighting for Healthcare for all, infrastructure that works, and education reforms and don’t forget if we realky want to make America Great we must go back to a working tax system like the 1950’s when we built this country. Probably the biggest change needed is repeal Citizens United. Otherwise there is no difference between the party’s.
Money buys power.