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Tom Schell's avatar

Jack- what you’ve described here firmly underscores the need for continual protests and rallies: people need to see we’ve not given up, that dissent does make a difference over time; it’s not just for ‘show’. Images matter. Modeling behavior matters: it gives some of those who are skittish/afraid a little more courage to do something. I believe people need constant reinforcement Big media must be pressured to show what’s happening. Look no further than the Epstein-Trump victims press conference yesterday which was ignored by big media. Thank goodness that a few members of Congress picked up the messaging.

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Cherae Stone's avatar

THIS is gross. Literally makes me feel ill, as I’m sure part of the plan. It’s more of a furious ill than a frantic one, though.

It’ll just make it easier for him to blow up whatever/whomever he wants like he just murdered 11 people in a boat in the Caribbean. Why is that single move not causing some serious uproar on the world stage?? I know why it’s not here, but come ON!!!!!

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Barnation Station's avatar

Congress is the ultimate authority even under an EO but the psychology of ignorance runs rampant so we’ll see if they cede this power also!!!

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Rachel C's avatar

They already have given over their power 👹

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Barnation Station's avatar

Thanks for replying and sorry for my tardy reply! You are correct in your statement. What I’m always seeking is an answer to the on-going “representative” piece of our Republic in that they cede, not to their constituents, but rather to one man given absurd impunity and can’t be trusted. Some things can’t be ceded but any that can have been. They say the ballot box. Well, I disagree, as the ballot box doesn’t come around too often and it certainly guarantees nothing, now more than ever, to the people who they betray who put them in the position to represent We The People, and not some King, John Roberts was paid handsomely to invent.

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Rachel C's avatar

I wonder what they think they need more money for. What do Roberts, et. al. get out of destroying the country? I guess I’m naive, but I still can’t understand that sort of motivation. 👹

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Barnation Station's avatar

Musk is set to become the first trillionaire. OMG!! Yet, he bought the Get out of Jail for 250M in 2024. Robert's I can't understand. They won't need a court and the UET he's gone way over his authority in my humble opinion. The VC's and the Tech Bros are just whack in their desire to live forever by getting to Mars. Yes, I said that. They also were Dems and are afraid of the big bad wolf. But, the Oath, especially the SCOTUS. They have a different standard as they aren't elected but to make a ruling that has no history or no Founding precedent is unforgivable. I don't think that way either. But I'm starting to because the back story runs decades and it is nefarious. It is worldwide.

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Rachel C's avatar

You know that Mars is not inhabitable in any way we would recognize. It’s hot and covered in grit. We can’t live here where we evolved. How will they live in an enclosed artificial environment? How will they stay supplied? None of the current bunch will live that long. Even if they did, they would kill each other within 6 months. Too selfish to cooperate 👹

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Mo Robinson's avatar

All I can think of is “ Do not obey in advance” 🤬🤬

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JP4M's avatar

For sure, Mo! Thank you!

Also, I hope you know that I do not mean that the song be shared in connection with anything related to the proposed change or other changes someone wants. I mean it is important for us all in its intended, real meaning, and it is a song to keep within us to uphold our preferred vocabulary, our intended America, the America we want to have saved, not the America in a crippled and mutilated firm caused by somebody or by anybody.

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Mo Robinson's avatar

Absolutely.

Looking forward to listening to it.

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JP4M's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k8bG4W6s3Y

Thank you. Mo. The link included here is the correct one with the performance. I accidentally had pasted the link with lyrics before I edited.

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Mo Robinson's avatar

That was a very rousing song! 👏🏻

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JP4M's avatar

It’s always been that way to me. I don’t want his renaming and playing of psychological games to gain control, to ruin that song and what it stands for. That’s why I feel I can hang onto the song at least, a guide in holding this country dear as intended by the composer. No matter what betides, we can always hold songs in our hearts, and items we have memorized can become precious, even if they had not been as meaningful earlier.

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Mo Robinson's avatar

Exactly

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Larry Bushard's avatar

We need to reach 5 to 10 million MORE people to be out on the streets next time or there may not be a “next time”!

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JP4M's avatar
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Jack, thank you to no end for explaining the psychology involved with the vocabulary; it goes still more deeply than I already had recognized.

In two different ways, your much needed and extremely appreciated writing about the renaming of the proposed name change of our Department of Defense, and the strategic use of “war” as well as the effects of other terminology we recognize from history, kept bringing a particularly song to mind. The song, “This Is My Country”, is one of pride, and its lyrics can be found at

scout songs.com. I found myself wanting to hold onto it, intermittently, as I read more. As hard as it might be to understand the emotional conflict, the fact is that I felt both the pride for what the lyrics describe, and I have always felt since learning the song many years ago, and I felt the oppressing crime of proposed uses of changed vocabulary, vocabulary which brings severe tarnish to the song. The mingling of feelings of the deprivation striving to overtake the pride seemed like two flashing mental screens competing for a projector’s light, one screen of joyful pride, but the replacement language influencing the second screen, though still with the original lyrics, looking badly tarnished because thoughts of the vocabulary, aside from the song, was ruining the song forever.

Then I thought again. As we hold our original terminology of “defense” and other words in our hearts, thoughts, and communications, they make our song, “This is My Country” glow still more than it already has for us for years. “This is my country, to have and to hold.” We must hold onto it. “I pledge thee my allegiance, America, the bold, for this is my country, to have and to hold.” is a cheering guide, and our allegiance is to our America and the freedoms for which it stands, not something dark being put upon it. It is ours to hold onto and to save. So are our words. Jack, thank you so much. Your writing always carries deep meaning and wise advice. Your message tonight is deeply felt, internalized.

Here are the lyrics, as posted on scottsongs.com, and pasted for easy reference if needed. (I see that I had forgotten the second and third verses.)

“This is my country! Land of my birth!

Thisis my country! Grandest on earth!

I pledge thee my allegiance, America, the bold,

For this is my country to have and to hold.

What diff'rence if I hail from North or South

Or from the East or West?

My heart is filled with love for all of these.

I only know I swell with pride and deep within my breast

I thrill to see Old Glory paint the breeze.

With hand upon heart I thank the Lord For this my native land,

For all I love is here within her gates.

My sould is rooted deeply in the soil on which I stand,

For these are mine own United States.

This is my country! Land of my choice!

This is my country! Hear my proud voice!

I pledge thee my allegiance, America, the bold,

For this is my country! To have and to hold.“

While I read your wisely shared descriptions of effects of changes, I felt the horrific, depressed circumstances involved as ruining the song, possibly making it one I could never sing again, not that all of the lyrics came to me. However, as you encouraged us to hold onto our language, and as I kept revisiting the song out of a strongly felt need, your words pulled me out of the sadness of a pride being stripped from us, and gave me the idea that the song is not ruined. It remains a blessing to hold onto, to protect and to hold in our memories and our hearts, just as importantly as the words we must keep in the descriptions you wisely shared. I do feel that the song should be protected, and that none of our patriotic songs should be misused.

Your valuable writing tonight brings about still more stirring feelings, also bringing a mix of caution and hope, of recognition of pressures, yet a forever joy of pride, determination, and considerations of battles I want so much not to need because our Congressional Houses, our Judiciary System, and wisdom of wise, responsible citizens will carry us through this time as they should and must. If only every person in each branch will wake up and act responsibly now, …..!

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3dEdited

Here is a YouTube site to let you hear the U. S. Army Chorus sing “This is My Country”. I am pasting it here to explain better what I was feeling, as described in my reaction above, thanks to Jack’s inspiration tonight. It is our country. We must hold onto it, hold it dear, and hold fast to the vocabulary as Jack clarified as being ultimately important to us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k8bG4W6s3Y

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