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Thank you so much for this article! I am a psychotherapist but also attended Bible School and graduate degree from Loyola University in Pastoral Counseling! The Trump thing hit me in various ways. I identified as a Christian but!!!!! could NOT get behind Trump . My best friend of years I had to part ways and it was painful. I couldn’t do it. I KNOW what the Bible says about how to treat people and how to be a good person and Trump was none of that! As a result, I no longer go to a church. I see myself as spiritual but not religious. I am still a counselor and have been interested in cults and cult behavior and have watched every Netflix documentary on cults. I have also had clients who have been in cults and come in for counseling. Cults break you down as people and just like your article they get you to a point that you turn off your rational mind and follow the authority figure. Thanks for putting this together for us. Keep up the great work!!

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Benny raises an excellent question. Can we move some of those people into a place where their need for conformity and susceptibility to authoritarianism can be decreased? If so, how? Or is it just a numbers game? As an aside, when I was an undergraduate, I participated in a replication of Milgram’s study. We were promised extra credit as a carrot and a “negative report” to our major advisor if we did not complete the study. I was OK until about the 3rd round of shocks when the person on the other end exhibited signs of pain and distress. It went right up against my value of not hurting innocents absent exigent circumstances. I told the experimenter (who was wearing a lab coat and had a clipboard, lol) that I was out. He sternly reminded me of the consequence of doing that. I told him that I’d tell my advisor why I quit and if I still suffered some sanction as a result I was prepared to take it. Notably, on various psychometric measures I score low on authoritarianism and conformity. I don’t know if I learned that or if I was just born a contrarian, haha.

Just spitballing here, but for those of us who are more comfortable going against the tide, what is it inside us that helps us do that? Can we identify it and maybe teach it? It seems like there are probably a number of people who would *like to break out of the cult but they either don’t know how or perceive they would have too much to lose or both. Are there MA (MAGA anonymous) groups out there? Should there be? There are support groups for just about everything else, so maybe it’s time if they aren’t already there. Anyway, many thanks to Jack for his cogent and accurate summary of some of the major drivers of the MAGA bus! 🙂

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