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Deb's avatar

I wish I knew something about Zorro Ranch that would be helpful. I don’t. I was deep diving following all the other Epstein locations, people poring over the released documents and I was, honestly, hoping someone WOULD find some sort of evidence, pull the string and uncover something helpful in New Mexico. I’ve kind of lost track of it….

The rumors and alleged goings on have been more than disturbing. Experiments, forced pregnancies, buried bodies from children that died during rough sex, tricked out underground medical facilities, all manner of depraved and inhumane things. Likely hell on earth for the victims and survivors. Of course, power wants that buried forever and…. we deserve to know.

My spidey senses tell me THIS is the place that likely should have been investigated first. It’s the big kahuna of evidence and most likely depravity beyond most people’s imaginations. And based on what you’ve laid out….. well, you get where I’m going.

The sex trafficking was the front….. it’s the machinery, people and institutions behind it that are the protect at all costs layers and levels. Money laundering, big banks, governments, maybe arms dealing…. anything and everything. Big $$, power and control….. transnational. There are FAR too many hmmm’s with this one (like the father / son deal) to NOT raise red flags. Not saying it proves anything and it definitely raises some huge suspicions and the antennae….

I, for one, want to know and I want justice for the survivors. Let the chips fall.

Thank you, Jack! I’m grateful that you’ve picked up this thread. It’s important.

Jack Hopkins's avatar

Deb...one of the most honest notes I've gotten...so let me answer just as honestly.

First: you did MORE than you think.

Following the thread...and hoping someone pulls the string is the instinct that KEEPS a story alive. You don't need the smoking gun. Refusing to look away IS the contribution.

Now...the line I try to hold. Some of your list has real reporting behind it...Epstein's plan to use the ranch to "seed" his DNA (New York Times)...the King father-son ties...the withheld files...the delayed search.

But some of it...buried children...underground medical facilities...traces to rumor, and in one case...a single unverified 2019 tip. No graves...no charges. I won't build on those... and...not to protect anyone.

The OPPOSITE: the moment I braid a confirmed fact...to an unproven horror...I hand the stonewallers an excuse to dismiss the WHOLE thing as tinfoil. Overreach is how these stories die.

BUT...your gut is dead RIGHT where it counts...and it needs zero rumors to stand: this probably should have been looked at FIRST. Most isolated property...own airstrip...sold and renamed...wrapped in FEDERAL SILENCE.

You don't need buried bodies to find that alarming...the withholding itself...IS the scandal.

Antennae up...not a verdict reached. That's the honest posture...and...it's the one they can't swat away.

Let the chips fall, Deb...I'll keep pulling the thread...and keep telling you which parts are rock and which are still smoke...the best of my ability.

Grateful for you.

-Jack

Ellen Zucker's avatar

True, many layers to the coverup. What we do know, is under this regime, the Feds have been consistently lying and covering up. We cannot give them any presumption of credibility.

Jack Hopkins's avatar

Ellen...well said.

Credibility isn't owed...it's EARNED in daylight.

The moment they start blacking out names...and running out the clock...they forfeit the benefit of the doubt. And...here's the thing: I don't have to assume the worst to make the case. The withholding IS the evidence.

When someone swears they're cooperating...while REFUSING TO SHOW THEIR WORK ...the refusal tells you EVERYTHING.

I'll keep holding them to the record... it's the one thing they can't spin.

-Jack

Christie's avatar

This is just one more, in a long list of reasons, Todd Blanche should not be confirmed as Attorney General this coming Wednesday! He is not now, nor will he ever, serve the interests of the citizens of this country…his one and only purpose is to protect that orange degenerate and wannabe dictator that, amongst other things, is not only destroying our democracy, our alliances, looting our coffers like there’s no tomorrow, but also destroying our national treasures…the White House, the Reflecting Pool, and anything else that he can get his filthy hands on!! My patience is wearing quite thin, and as my cousin, Guðmundur, in Iceland says…”don’t piss off an Icelandic woman!!”

Jack Hopkins's avatar

Christie...ha! Tell Guðmundur...we could use some of that Icelandic backbone over here!

One thing in your favor: Wednesday and Thursday are the committee hearings...not the confirmation. The vote comes later...so...the window to make noise is right NOW.

Blanche needs EVERY Republican on Judiciary...and Tillis...Cornyn...and Cassidy have ALL said they're not sold. Even Cassidy admits he's not convinced Blanche will stop being Trump's lawyer...and start being the country's.

Over 1,200 former DOJ staff signed a letter against him. And...a department that won't hand New Mexico the Epstein files...is EXACTLY the problem in miniature.

Point that thinning patience at three phone numbers this week: Tillis, Cornyn, Cassidy. That's where it lands.

I LOVE your FIRE!

-Jack

Christie's avatar

Will do!!

David R. MD's avatar

I'm not an attorney, but i would think that at the very least, he should be criminally charges as an "accessory after the fact".

I don't know the technical legalities, but I do know the pathology - he's a psychopath.

JoyousCarol's avatar

I've been reading about the New Mexico Epstein ranch for some time with The Pugilist. Poor girl had to leave the country because she was stalked & was suffering serious DEW effects. You need to keep yours & yourself SAFE.❤️

Cherae Stone's avatar

I’ve been following her, as well. Jack, I’m sure you know of her work. Please check it out if you don’t. It’s quite a tangled web.

Jack Hopkins's avatar

Thank you for this...and I mean it. That your first instinct was my safety...and my family's...tells me everything about the kind of person you are. I don't take that lightly.

Let me split it the way I split everything else.

The general danger is real...and I don't wave it off. People who dig into this world have faced genuine harassment...stalking...threats...intimidation...doxxing. That's documented...and it's exactly why I'm careful about what I share...how I keep what I've got...and who knows what.

I take security seriously...because you're RIGHT that this isn't a subject powerful people want EXAMINED. So the warning lands...and I'm grateful for it.

The specific part...the directed-energy-weapon effects...I'll be straight with you: I can't verify that, and I'm not familiar enough with The Pugilist's account or what she went through to speak to it.

You know the standard I hold myself to here. I follow what I can DOCUMENT...and I tell you honestly...which parts are solid...and which I can't stand behind. This is one I can't independently confirm...so I'll hold it at arm's length rather than pass it on as fact; the same standard I'd want applied to my own work.

NONE of which dulls the point that matters: watch your back...protect your people. I hear it...and I'm doing it.

Take good care of yourself out there too.

Grateful you're in this with me!

-Jack

Douglas Mackay's avatar

Is there (was there) any evidence of graves, buried physical evidence, or eye witnesses to crimes? If so, time has destroyed most of it. We’re years away from definitive answers.

Jack Hopkins's avatar

Douglas...straight answer: the "bodies buried at the ranch" claim comes from a single unverified 2019 tip...NOTHING confirmed...no graves...no charges.

I won't dress it up as more.

BUT...the eyewitnesses are real...AND...on the record: multiple survivors...including Chauntae Davies and Virginia Giuffre...plus a ranch manager...who told the FBI back in 2007 what Epstein was doing there.

Here's the reframe, though:

You're right that physical evidence degrades...the property sat empty...sold...renamed... unsearched until 2026.

But witnesses and documents...don't rot. And...the documents aren't lost; they're INTACT... in a DOJ drawer. That's the whole point.

Lost evidence is a tragedy. Withheld evidence is a CHOICE. We may be years from a verdict...but we're one decision away from the truth.

-Jack

Morgan's avatar

What a typical cluster fuck imposed by the Orange Shitstain.. and his hold in this Presidency.. point by point.. Jack and others have connected enough dots.. the victims have earned the right to transparency. But it will never come with the Orange Shitstain in office.. and his minions will destroy evidence and redact everything they can.. that Orange Shitstain and everyone involved with the sexual abuse of underage females and legal age females is infuriating.. I completely understand victims not wanting to give their name or be questioned ad naseum with ..are you sure this actually happened?? I’ve been there. I’ve been thru hell. I stayed absolutely silent so my youngest daughter wouldn’t hear anything because they threatened they would do the same to her.. she was 12 at the time. Does this trigger me.. Fuck YES IT does. “THEY” well they were law enforcement.. they were paid to do that to me.. I can’t go anywhere near where it happened.. fuck I can’t get within 50 miles of where it happened.. anxiety hits hard at weird times.. am I healed.. Fuck No.. most days I’m ok. I’m functioning and mostly good.. but a sound or smell or comment.. fuuuck the anxiety hits and grabs on. I’m thankful my kids are ok and I’m thankful I’m still here. As time passes I’m mostly good. But I have my Dad’s Navy service weapon side arm hidden where I can access it quickly. I have my hubby’s deer rifle by the front door.. I have my Service Dog who barks at everything.. Fuck Epstein I’m glad he’s dead. And I’m still here…and I’m not going anywhere🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽 sorry Jack and anyone who is triggered by this post. I’m finally able to able to speak about this.. yes my anxiety is creeping up a bit.. deep breath..

Cherae Stone's avatar

Oh, Morgan!! How horrible. I’m so very sorry and I completely understand about your doing anything to protect your daughter. Why people gotta be so damn MEAN??!!!

Morgan's avatar

It’s not just mean they feel entitled that’s what enrages me.. that they can do anything they want without any boundaries. Without stop gaps.. we have a 34 count rapist in the WH.. JFC .. those law enforcement fuckers.. who raped me and no one really cares.. that’s what just fries my circuits.. RAPE is real. And surviving it takes monumental amounts of work to function normally again. Then you have triggers.. seeing someone who resembles your rapist.. JFC you have no idea the amount of trauma that buries you.. and yet you still wake up and try to live normally again.. and ask anyone who’s had trauma like that.. it’s fighting every single day to just find normalcy. To laugh again.. to TRUST again.. to believe you can be normal again.. but it’s really about a new normal.. is like going to war.. PTSD oh yeah.. my old friend. And the anxiety.. fuck.. yeah the anxiety can be debilitating..

Cherae Stone's avatar

You’re a true warrior, Morgan!

I’m here if you ever wanna spew.

cheraestone@gmail.com

Morgan's avatar

Thank you my dear friend.. I have not spoken about that time in a very long time..

Cherae Stone's avatar

I’m happy that you feel comfortable doing so here. You are supported and appreciated in this space.

Morgan's avatar

I’m writing your email down

Morgan's avatar

I survived and it took a lot of work to put myself back together. You don’t have a choice when you’re also trying to raise your kids at the same time. But I’m thankful for them because I couldn’t just disappear. I had to still function and be Mom. They’re adults now and my youngest asked me how did you survive all of that.. I couldn’t give up I had to make sure you and your sister thrived.. that’s my job. It’s the best job ever. That’s what Mom’s do.

Ellen Zucker's avatar

I'm angry and sad that your life has been so permanently altered merely to satisfy someone's sense of entitlement.

But you inspire through your resilience. I'm routing for you.

If there is one thing the current regime has revealed, it is just how entrenched rape culture is.

This is the nation that elects a serial rapist as POTUS. Twice. In any other Universe, the Access Hollywood tapes have immediately made Trump radioactive. And now DOJ is doing its best to protect rich and powerful from the consequences of raping children(!)

The culture is truly rotten to the core.

CJ Bair's avatar

You deserve Justice! … I’m on your side.

Morgan's avatar

Thank you dear friend..it’s been a long time and a dear friend and advocate from the sheriffs dept. helped tremendously. Just getting my soul and my trauma validated..I survived and I’m thankful for so much. My kids are adults now but my eldest is 40 minutes away and the youngest.. she would go and visit her old school friends in that town and I’d tell her please please be careful.. now my youngest just bought her first home a few hours away with her boyfriend and she has her cat and they have their dog and she’s working in my industry and doing Dad’s bookkeeping.. I’m content now. My girls are adulting.. I still have my bonus son every single weekend he’s a teenager and he’s number 15 of all the kids I’ve raised.. yes 15.. I’m the youngest of 6.. and my 3 older brothers are drug addicts.. so I raised all of their kids.. I’m very close to all their ex wives. But my brothers never paid a cent in child support.. so Aunty(me) made sure the children had everything they needed.. and when something goes sideways.. I get the phone call.. and now they’re the ones checking on me..😂 I’m content and thankful.

Rachel C's avatar

I’m sorry for all you’ve been through and happy you have some measure of peace now. You are brave. 👹-my personal support emoji- Stay Fierce 👹

Morgan's avatar

Thank you so so much Rachel. I’m sending you a giant Hawaiian Hug

Susan's avatar

I know who I believe and who I don’t and I have zero faith in Todd Blanche and the DOJ being open and honest and providing the requested documentation. He’s already shown who he is and who he protects… many times over. I hope it comes back to bite him.. in a really big way. Hopefully before New Mexico’s case goes completely cold. The victims and survivors deserve it and they’ve had to wait far too long already.

Thank you for this, Jack. I know a tremendous amount of time and effort went into it.

#Holdfast

~Susan

Jack Hopkins's avatar

Susan...you keep showing up in these threads with exactly the right instinct...and I'm grateful for it EVERY time.

You put your finger on the thing that matters most: this isn't about assuming the worst of Blanche. It's that a public record ALREADY exists...the WITHHELD files...the DELAYS the pattern of WHO gets protected...and people are entitled to judge him by it.

Skepticism you can point to on the page isn't cynicism. It's just paying ATTENTION. You don't owe the benefit of the doubt to ANYONE who's clamped a hand over the drawer.

And...you named the real stakes...the ones I NEVER want to lose sight of underneath all the politics: the survivors have already waited FAR too long...and every month the case edges closer to COLD.

That clock is the ENTIRE reason this can't be allowed to quietly fade. It's why I KEEP pulling the thread...and...why readers like YOU... sharing it...matters more than you know; you're the memory that does NOT lose interest on schedule.

Thank you for seeing the work in it. That means a great deal coming from you.

#Holdfast

-Jack

Susan's avatar

Thank you, Jack. Sharing it with friends and family. Some who won’t have ever heard about Zorro Ranch and some who are familiar with it and will welcome this in-depth article that you generously shared without a paywall.

~Susan

Karen's avatar

Todd Carte Blanche and the Trump regime seem to think Epstein will go away if they stonewall long enough. It won’t. Appreciate you! Keep up the good trouble

Jack Hopkins's avatar

Karen..."Todd Carte Blanche" ...ha...I may have to borrow that one.

You've got the strategy pegged EXACTLY: run out the clock...keep the files in the drawer...wait for the country to get bored. It's a bet that OUR attention span is shorter than their PATIENCE.

And...you're right... it won't work, but only if ENOUGH of us REFUSE to look away.

That's the entire job of a place like this: BE the MEMORY that doesn't fade on schedule.

"Good trouble"...you know WHOSE words those are...and you know he was RIGHT. I'll keep making it...as long as the record backs me up. And...it does.

Appreciate you right back. Readers like you are why I keep digging!

-Jack

Steven Erick's avatar

I have put another Epstein observation paper together. I am still working on my conclusions. It melds beautifully with you r analysis, though I draw some conclusions based on the information available. I would like to cite your newsletter and add a section on Zorro Ranch if you are amenable to this. I will of course credit your work in the posting. Otherwise I will leave it out. Great job on you analysis,

Jack Hopkins's avatar

Steven...absolutely...cite away, and thank you for asking.

Send me the link when it's live...I'd genuinely like to read where you take it. This is what the whole thing is supposed to be: readers...building on each other's work...out in the open!

Thank you, Steven.

-Jack

Bill Corbett's avatar

Thanks Jack, the silence surrounding this place is deafening. This place may be dirtier and deadlier than the island in St. Thomas. Curious if any of this will be brought up in Todd's confirmation hearing this week.

Jack Hopkins's avatar

Bill...the silence is the tell, isn't it?

EVERY other property got raided on camera; this one...the BIGGEST and most isolated... with its own airstrip...got a SHRUG. That quiet stops being an absence...and starts being a SIGNAL.

I'll hold the "deadlier than the island" line lightly...a lot about the ranch is still rumor, and I'd rather let the withholding itself be the scandal than race ahead of what's proven. BUT...your instinct that this place got a suspicious PASS... needs zero rumors to stand.

On the hearing: yes, it's this week...Senate Judiciary...Wednesday and Thursday. Will the ranch get named specifically? I wouldn't bet on it; the fight's mostly been about the anti-weaponization fund...and Blanche's old job as Trump's lawyer.

But...the broader Epstein-files stonewalling is fair game...a legitimate question for ANY Democrat on that committee to put to him: your department has SAT on records a state prosecutor requested in February...WHY?

Watch Durbin's side of the table.

I'll be watching both days. If the ranch or the files get so much as a mention...you'll hear it from me.

-Jack

Buck O'Kelly's avatar

I searched on the question: how can doj be compelled to show all of its communications with new mexico attorney general raúl torrez regarding zorro ranch investigation? None of the mechanisms seem offer much hope of a remotely timely release.

Sue P's avatar

I restacked with this note:

"Zorro Ranch. Main way in helicopter or plane. Are there records not under Blanche's rug that would have the same info that Epstein Island flights kept?

I know this would be one of the hardest thing any woman would need to face, but I do hope that other survivors step up, and help bring justice for themselves and the children who did not survive.

My biggest fear is that the trafficking merely changed locations and management, but the names are still in withheld documents."

I look at the searches being conducted on that piece of property, that happens to be surrounded by millions of acres of desert land not ever owned by Epstein, similar to the ocean surrounding Epstein Island. . . All they had to do was drive a few miles past his boundary and ...

Sheila's avatar

The Pugalist has researched this extensively.

Kristine Antonivich's avatar

I have reached the point that I take any information from this regime as false until proven true. The DOJ gives the press releases and stalls the investigation, that is criminal in and of itself.

I think the point that sticks in my mind is the DOJ as personal protection squad for whoever is in power. How do we prevent this abuse of power now and going forward.

Circle back to Zorro Ranch, the unredacted evidence needs to be produced. The State prosecutors should be able to build their case. To all the victims that survived and those that didn't justice needs to be done. I fear that Blanche will be confirmed and time will run out. I have more questions than answers unfortunately.

Concerned Citizen's avatar

The stonewalling and smokescreen tactics of the DOJ and the Administration is just what their boss wants. Deny, deflect, discredit, and distract. This has always been Trump’s MO. Even if he had nothing to do with the NM property, his name is all over the files. A reckoning is coming and it’s going to be a bumpy ride.

#HoldFast

KaF's avatar

I have a legal background though not a lawyer; I worked for years in litigation. My question is, when the opposing side does not provide the documents requested, the requesting party normally would file with the court a motion to compel production of certain documents. If there is noncompliance, the court gets involved and rules for or against the moving party. If noncompliance continues, sanctions can be assessed and awarded. I don’t see where any of this is happening or has happened. I find it improbable that every court and their judges are compromised. What piece of this do I not understand or I am missing?